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		<title>By: Twitter-Listen im Einsatz &#171; Mediendidaktik 2.0</title>
		<link>http://virtualbreath.net/curious/2009/11/02/to-list-or-not-to-list/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Twitter-Listen im Einsatz &#171; Mediendidaktik 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To list or not to list von Kristina D.C. Hoeppner [...]</description>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=409fdfa6bc71c31542a25b28bec249f2&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-content/plugins/identicon/7fcb464e3099bb5.png" alt="Ilona Buchem Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Ilona Buchem</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting to observe how people use Twitter lists and how they categorize other people on Twitter. 

It seems that there are many different things people aim at when organizing their contacts in Twitter most notably (1) facilitating search, (2) reducing noise and (3) gaining publicity. 

What do you think are other possible aims? 

I decided to categorize by regions and organize into public lists. 

Here is my blogpost on this: http://ibuchem.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/twitter-listen-einsatz/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting to observe how people use Twitter lists and how they categorize other people on Twitter. </p>
<p>It seems that there are many different things people aim at when organizing their contacts in Twitter most notably (1) facilitating search, (2) reducing noise and (3) gaining publicity. </p>
<p>What do you think are other possible aims? </p>
<p>I decided to categorize by regions and organize into public lists. </p>
<p>Here is my blogpost on this: <a href="http://ibuchem.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/twitter-listen-einsatz/" rel="nofollow">http://ibuchem.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/twitter-listen-einsatz/</a></p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ca4f0faa5244fe6fc0cea24c67402cd1&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-content/plugins/identicon/698f3e723f518bc.png" alt="Kristina D.C. Hoeppner Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Kristina D.C. Hoeppner</title>
		<link>http://virtualbreath.net/curious/2009/11/02/to-list-or-not-to-list/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator><img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ca4f0faa5244fe6fc0cea24c67402cd1&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-content/plugins/identicon/698f3e723f518bc.png" alt="Kristina D.C. Hoeppner Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Kristina D.C. Hoeppner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas, your suggestion of asking people if they want to get listed reminds me of a common social network profile / blog comment feature: 1) allow anybody to [make contact / comment ...], 2) allow friends to [make contact / comment ...], 3) moderate any activity. That would give everybody certainly more control over their inclusion in lists.

I think it would be good to receive an email when you are listed to have the possibility to opt out / block a person as you also receive an email when somebody starts following your tweets. 

The entire approval thing is not implemented in Twitter as danah boyd writes in her recent post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/10/25/some_thoughts_o_2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Twitter and Facebook status updates&lt;/a&gt;. You don&#039;t have to follow back in order to receive updates on Twitter whereas you need to approve friendship requests on Facebook to have access to the other person&#039;s stream.

I rather like that I am not required by default to follow another Twitter user but can decide on a case to case basis still allowing him / her to receive my updates in their stream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas, your suggestion of asking people if they want to get listed reminds me of a common social network profile / blog comment feature: 1) allow anybody to [make contact / comment ...], 2) allow friends to [make contact / comment ...], 3) moderate any activity. That would give everybody certainly more control over their inclusion in lists.</p>
<p>I think it would be good to receive an email when you are listed to have the possibility to opt out / block a person as you also receive an email when somebody starts following your tweets. </p>
<p>The entire approval thing is not implemented in Twitter as danah boyd writes in her recent post on <a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/10/25/some_thoughts_o_2.html" rel="nofollow">Twitter and Facebook status updates</a>. You don&#8217;t have to follow back in order to receive updates on Twitter whereas you need to approve friendship requests on Facebook to have access to the other person&#8217;s stream.</p>
<p>I rather like that I am not required by default to follow another Twitter user but can decide on a case to case basis still allowing him / her to receive my updates in their stream.</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ca4f0faa5244fe6fc0cea24c67402cd1&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-content/plugins/identicon/698f3e723f518bc.png" alt="Kristina D.C. Hoeppner Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Kristina D.C. Hoeppner</title>
		<link>http://virtualbreath.net/curious/2009/11/02/to-list-or-not-to-list/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are truly the God of YahooPipes, Tony. :-)

The feature of being able to subscribe to a list of somebody else is good when I share their opinion about the categorization. If I really wanted to drill down I can still follow individuals or put them into a list of my own. The lists can be great to discover people whom to follow. That&#039;s the case for any categorization / directory etc.: A pre-selection already narrows the field of potential suspects.

It&#039;s interesting that I can put people in lists without having to follow them. Then I could have strong ties (people I follow) and weak ties (people who I only have in lists).

Having lists in the web interface is not streamlined yet because I have to go to each group to see the updates. Or did I miss anything? Client apps will be better once they have implemented the &quot;official&quot; lists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are truly the God of YahooPipes, Tony. <img src='http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The feature of being able to subscribe to a list of somebody else is good when I share their opinion about the categorization. If I really wanted to drill down I can still follow individuals or put them into a list of my own. The lists can be great to discover people whom to follow. That&#8217;s the case for any categorization / directory etc.: A pre-selection already narrows the field of potential suspects.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that I can put people in lists without having to follow them. Then I could have strong ties (people I follow) and weak ties (people who I only have in lists).</p>
<p>Having lists in the web interface is not streamlined yet because I have to go to each group to see the updates. Or did I miss anything? Client apps will be better once they have implemented the &#8220;official&#8221; lists.</p>
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		<title>By: A comment on no comments &#8211; The Curious and Wondering Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>A comment on no comments &#8211; The Curious and Wondering Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my gosh. No comments? When I do get some, even two on one post within a really short time, I&#8217;m told I don&#8217;t have comments? Come on. That&#8217;s not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my gosh. No comments? When I do get some, even two on one post within a really short time, I&#8217;m told I don&#8217;t have comments? Come on. That&#8217;s not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=af2b158f702288951106f862866951a4&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-content/plugins/identicon/e8b465801157659.png" alt="Andreas Auwaerter Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Andreas Auwaerter</title>
		<link>http://virtualbreath.net/curious/2009/11/02/to-list-or-not-to-list/comment-page-1/#comment-288</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also a bit confused but now i tried to open a list called name/podcasting4learning. Alsoi think it is ok to ask perple if they want to get listed there. What may happen is to get a better overview on topical fields. But in fact: You cannot determine which content people will be tweeting in future. So what will be placed in the list? 

Interesting subject of research will raise up

I am sharing your  couriousity but: Each list has its own followers - this could be a good anchor to hook on a topic. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also a bit confused but now i tried to open a list called name/podcasting4learning. Alsoi think it is ok to ask perple if they want to get listed there. What may happen is to get a better overview on topical fields. But in fact: You cannot determine which content people will be tweeting in future. So what will be placed in the list? </p>
<p>Interesting subject of research will raise up</p>
<p>I am sharing your  couriousity but: Each list has its own followers &#8211; this could be a good anchor to hook on a topic. <img src='http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: <img class="identicon" src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=abbd9f90565ce9ae4d065d93a81d8c03&#38;size=35&#38;default=http://virtualbreath.net/curious/wp-content/plugins/identicon/41fdb93ee40f910.png" alt="Tony Hirst Identicon Icon" height="35" width="35" /> Tony Hirst</title>
		<link>http://virtualbreath.net/curious/2009/11/02/to-list-or-not-to-list/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things that lists offer people out of the can are aggregated twitter streams constructed from the the tweets of list members.

It has been possible to do this in an ad hoc way before (eg Tweetdeck group, or bookmarking twitter IDs to delicious and then using a Yahoo pipe to aggregate feeds of people tagged the same way), but the &#039;true service&#039; offering makes this capability available to everyone without any serious barrier to entry.

The lists are also social objects that can be easily shared, as well as trivially subscribed to/unsubscribed from (though I&#039;m not sure what happens if you follow a list that also contains someon you&#039;ve blocked? Are their tweets blocked in the stream?)

I imagine the next step (eg in client evolution at least) will be the ability to filter tweets from a particular group so that you only see tweets within a group that contain (or mayb, do not contain) a particular term.

For myself, I&#039;m going to explore the use of lists a hashtag discovery mechanism:
http://ouseful.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/whats-happening-now-hashtags-on-twitter-lists/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that lists offer people out of the can are aggregated twitter streams constructed from the the tweets of list members.</p>
<p>It has been possible to do this in an ad hoc way before (eg Tweetdeck group, or bookmarking twitter IDs to delicious and then using a Yahoo pipe to aggregate feeds of people tagged the same way), but the &#8216;true service&#8217; offering makes this capability available to everyone without any serious barrier to entry.</p>
<p>The lists are also social objects that can be easily shared, as well as trivially subscribed to/unsubscribed from (though I&#8217;m not sure what happens if you follow a list that also contains someon you&#8217;ve blocked? Are their tweets blocked in the stream?)</p>
<p>I imagine the next step (eg in client evolution at least) will be the ability to filter tweets from a particular group so that you only see tweets within a group that contain (or mayb, do not contain) a particular term.</p>
<p>For myself, I&#8217;m going to explore the use of lists a hashtag discovery mechanism:<br />
<a href="http://ouseful.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/whats-happening-now-hashtags-on-twitter-lists/" rel="nofollow">http://ouseful.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/whats-happening-now-hashtags-on-twitter-lists/</a></p>
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